Override fine

[Hemant Singh]

Sir is that possible to override fine later on  i mean after return the book or at no dues?

[Verus Open Source Support]

No. Fine must be overridden only at the time of check in. However we will consider this as a upgrade issue. We will make a feature available at "Collect overdues" functionality to override fines.
Regards
NewGenLib Open Source Team

On 01/04/2012 01:31 PM, Hemant Singh [via NewGenLib] wrote:

Sir is that possible to override fine later on  i mean after return the book or at no dues?

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[rsgiri]

Another issue regarding fine system you may consider in the next upgrade.
Many instititution did not take fine upto second overdue day due to less availability of Rs. 1, 2, etc. The fine starts at the third overdue date (i.e. user fine starts at Rs. 3) . The librarian will decide when the fine will start . It may be a good feature.

To overide the fine, you may provide a row for the cause of overriding the fine.

This facility, I have recently seen in other software.

Regards

[Verus Open Source Support]

Hi,
Can you please make the first requirement more clear?
Regarding the second requirement, we will add a "Reason note" so that the reason for overriding the fine can be mentioned


On Thursday 12 January 2012 04:55 PM, rsgiri [via NewGenLib] wrote:

Another issue regarding fine system you may consider in the next upgrade.
Many instititution did not take fine upto second overdue day due to less availability of Rs. 1, 2, etc. The fine starts at the third overdue date (i.e. user fine starts at Rs. 3) . The librarian will decide when the fine will start . It may be a good feature.

To overide the fine, you may provide a row for the cause of overriding the fine.

This facility, I have recently seen in other software.

Regards

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[rsgiri]

Hi,

For Instance,
Due date of a book is 27 January, 2012. If a student return on 28th Jan, the fine will be Rs. 1., on 29th Jan, it is Rs. 2. and on return 30 Jan Rs. 3, and so on. Instead of taking fine on 28 th jan, the fine may start from 31st jan and will calculate the amount of Rs. 4. The library will not collect fine of Rs. 1, 2, or 3.. It will collect the fine from Rs 4.0 onwards. (i.e., student with fine of rs. 1, 2 or 3 have not to be paid, many institutuion called it a grace period of 3 days. ). The grace period must depends on the policy of the Library.

The same also be reflected in total overdue collection report.

[Hemant Singh]

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[rsgiri]

Dear Hemant,
Here calculation will start from Rs. 1., We do not want to collect Rs. 1, 2 or 3 due  to less availability of changes. I will start the collection from Rs. 4 onwards.

This  particular feature is available in KOHA, LibSys (Tailor made customisation version only with a Hefty Charge).

[Verus Open Source Support]

Grace period facility will be added in "Circulation Privilege Matrix"
Also a remarks field will be added so that any information can be updated during Check out, Check in, Renewal, or any other Circulation transaction

On Friday 13 January 2012 11:23 AM, rsgiri [via NewGenLib] wrote:

Hi,

For Instance,
Due date of a book is 27 January, 2012. If a student return on 28th Jan, the fine will be Rs. 1., on 29th Jan, it is Rs. 2. and on return 30 Jan Rs. 3, and so on. Instead of taking fine on 28 th jan, the fine may start from 31st jan and will calculate the amount of Rs. 4. The library will not collect fine of Rs. 1, 2, or 3.. It will collect the fine from Rs 4.0 onwards. (i.e., student with fine of rs. 1, 2 or 3 have not to be paid, many institutuion called it a grace period of 3 days. ). The grace period must depends on the policy of the Library.

The same also be reflected in total overdue collection report.

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[Verus Open Source Support]

Hi,
This email is regarding the Grace period.
For example: Loan period is 10 days. After the loan period there is grace period of 3 days. After that the fine is calculated.
For such situation, in NewGenLib
In Circulation Privilege Matrix, define loan period as 10 days. And Overdue(fine) configuration as below
From 1 day to 3 days - 0 (Grace period)
From 4 days to 14 days - Rs 0.50
From 15 to 30 days - Re. 1
From 31 days till book is returned back - Rs 2
Hence grace period can be handled this way. Please comment on the same.
Regards
NewGenLib Open Source Team

On 01/13/2012 07:13 PM, NewGenLib Open Source Customer Support wrote:

Grace period facility will be added in "Circulation Privilege Matrix"
Also a remarks field will be added so that any information can be updated during Check out, Check in, Renewal, or any other Circulation transaction

On Friday 13 January 2012 11:23 AM, rsgiri [via NewGenLib] wrote:

Hi,

For Instance,
Due date of a book is 27 January, 2012. If a student return on 28th Jan, the fine will be Rs. 1., on 29th Jan, it is Rs. 2. and on return 30 Jan Rs. 3, and so on. Instead of taking fine on 28 th jan, the fine may start from 31st jan and will calculate the amount of Rs. 4. The library will not collect fine of Rs. 1, 2, or 3.. It will collect the fine from Rs 4.0 onwards. (i.e., student with fine of rs. 1, 2 or 3 have not to be paid, many institutuion called it a grace period of 3 days. ). The grace period must depends on the policy of the Library.

The same also be reflected in total overdue collection report.

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[Hemant Singh]

Sir



in Above image for 3 to 4 fine will be 10.00/day or total 10.00

[Verus Solutions Support]

10 per day

On 01/24/2012 04:03 PM, Hemant Singh [via NewGenLib] wrote:

Sir



in Above image for 3 to 4 fine will be 10.00/day or total 10.00

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[rsgiri]

Hi,
This logic are now being applie by us and it is quite O. K. There is no need to give it in Circulation priviledge matrix.
Another suggestion, in earlier version log out screen is there, but in recent version, quit mode is there. Earlier log out screen is much desirable than the present quit mode in a library where circulation is controlled by two or three library staff. Please consider it.

[Verus Open Source Support]

Logout option will be provided in the update 3.0.4



On Monday 30 January 2012 02:30 PM, rsgiri [via NewGenLib] wrote:

Hi,
This logic are now being applie by us and it is quite O. K. There is no need to give it in Circulation priviledge matrix.
Another suggestion, in earlier version log out screen is there, but in recent version, quit mode is there. Earlier log out screen is much desirable than the present quit mode in a library where circulation is controlled by two or three library staff. Please consider it.

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[mavicsilva]

how to generate a list of patrons with unpaid overdue fine?

[Verus Open Source Support]

Hi,
For this
Go to NewGenLib Desktop (Reports) -> Circulation -> Overdue material report is  there.


On 03/05/2012 07:06 AM, mavicsilva [via NewGenLib] wrote:

how to generate a list of patrons with unpaid overdue fine?

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[mavicsilva]

it only shows the current overdue materials. how about for the patrons who already returned their borrowed materials but haven't paid the fine yet?

[Verus Open Source Support]

A report is scheduled to be developed for this requirement.

[mavicsilva]

may i know when will you release the next update of newgenlib?

[Verus Open Source Support]

Hi,
The next update is going to be 3.0.3 Update 4. Excepted to be released this week.

On 03/06/2012 08:52 AM, mavicsilva [via NewGenLib] wrote:

may i know when will you release the next update of newgenlib?

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[mavicsilva]

can ngl ban a patron to borrow when he/she has an unpaid overdue fine?